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The Serious Side of Strep & What Parents Should Know

The Serious Side of Strep. What Parents (& Doctors) Should Know

The Serious Side of Strep. What Parents (& Doctors) Should Know

Just a brief note before I get into this post – I am not writing this in an attempt to instill fear into anyone.  I am not a fan of fear mongering, at all.  The condition I am going to talk about is somewhat rare, but it is real and it is often overlooked because parents, and even doctors know little or nothing about it.  This post is meant to raise awareness.

It happened overnight

I am a mother to a beautiful four year old little girl.  She is exceedingly bright, funny and outgoing.  She is also healthy.  We’ve had a few bumps along the road –  reflux, asthma and a little anxiety .  She outgrew her reflux.  Her asthma is well controlled and also getting better as she gets older.  As for the anxiety, well, it turns out that was a symptom of something bigger.

One day, just a few short months ago, everything got turned upside down, literally overnight.  Our healthy, happy daughter woke up one day with some pretty extreme OCD symptoms. Our daughter, who has an astounding vocabulary for a four year old, was suddenly struggling to speak. She was overcome with worry about her words not coming out right.  She began to speak very slowly, very robotic and she would have to be staring at you or she could not speak at all.  Another strange symptom that we noticed right away is that her pupils were suddenly huge, even in a well lit room. To say we were worried is an understatement.

We promptly booked an appointment with her psychologist (who we occasionally see for anxiety issues). We didn’t really come to any conclusions during that session but talked about ways we could help her deal with these compulsions. And then, as suddenly as it started it stopped.  She was back to her regular chatty self.  This lasted about four days.  And then the OCD behavior came back.  But it didn’t just come back.  This time is was even more pronounced than before.  And along with it came a tic. Molly was clearing her throat over and over, to the point where she was hoarse.

In the meantime our psychologist called and asked if we had considered that Molly might have PANDAS.  I recalled having read about PANDAS, quite some time ago.  It was just something I came across and at the time it had no relevance to me.  I hit the internet and started to learn more.  It didn’t take me long to realize this could very well be what we are dealing with.  During this time, when my husband and I were trying to learn as much as we could about this condition, Molly once again showed considerable improvement and then her symptoms returned with a vengeance. By this time her compulsions were all consuming, her tic was almost constant and my normally happy little girl was having fits of rage and violently lashing out at me.

What is PANDAS?

Before I go on with our story I want to tell you a little about PANDAS.  Unless you have a child or know a child that has been affected there is a good chance you may have never even heard about it.  Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcal Infections (PANDAS) is a condition that effects certain children after they have had a step infection.  It is not the strep itself that is causing the problems but the antibodies produced to fight the infection.  It is, in a nutshell, an autoimmune condition that presents as follows:

This is a dramatic and often debilitating condition.  And to make things so much worse, it is not simple to diagnose (or treat which we will get into). There is no simple blood test to diagnose PANDAS.  If you have a child that currently has an active case of strep and a swab and/or strep titer (blood test that measures the level of strep antibodies in the body) happen to be positive then that MAY lead doctors in the right direction.  However, by the time the symptoms are in full swing these tests may, and often do, come back showing no current strep infection.

To diagnose PANDAS doctors must use the diagnostic criteria:

  • Presence of significant obsessions, compulsions and/or tics
  • Abrupt onset of symptoms or a relapsing remitting course of symptoms severity
  • Prepubertal onset
  • Association with streptococcal infection.
  • Association with other neuropsychiatric symptoms:
    • Anxiety
    • Emotional lability and or/depression
    • Irritability, aggression and/or severely oppositional behaviors
    • Behavioural (developmental) regression
    • Deterioration in school performance
    • Sensory or motor abnormalities
    • Somatic signs including sleep disturbances, enuresis or urinary frequency.

Our daughter fit nearly all of this criteria. And her symptoms began immediately following a strep infection.  What just about every parent of a child with PANDAS will tell you is their child changed dramatically overnight. One day they were healthy and happy the next day they were overcome with OCD and/or extreme anxiety. It is terrifying.

It’s important to note here as well that it is becoming increasingly more evident that strep is not the only infection that can be the original source or subsequent cause of flair ups for this condition.  With PANDAS, the initial onset of symptoms is caused by a strep infection but after that initial reaction these kids can see flair ups from other infections or viruses. And there is now a broader condition – Pediatric Acute-onset Neuropsychiatric Syndrome (PANS) which does not mention a correlation with strep at all.  There are many cases out there of children contracting Lyme disease and subsequently developing PANDAS like symptoms that would fall under the PANS criteria.  However, it’s essential that doctor’s realize the correlation between PANDAS – which is initially triggered by strep – and the effects of  subsequent non-strep infections/viruses and not rule out PANDAS because there is no evidence of a current strep infection.

Hitting brick walls

On with our story.  Molly’s condition had gotten very extreme. By the way, while all this was happening she had a throat infection.  It may or may not have been strep BUT just before her initial onset of symptoms weeks before she did have a step infection.  Our pediatrician was on holidays.  So we packed Molly up and took her to the ER at our local hospital.  When she was first admitted her symptoms were so severe they had to give her Valium to try and bring her stress level down.  We ended up staying in the hospital for a week while they ran various tests on her. She had a CT scan, an EEG, an MRI and long list of blood tests.  Every single test came back negative. My husband and I were already pretty sure we were dealing with PANDAS but because of the severity of her symptoms it would have been irresponsible of us not to allow for these tests to rule out any possible life threatening or other serious conditions.

We mentioned to more than one doctor that our psychologist had brought up the possibility of PANDAS.  The first pediatrician that cared for us didn’t dismiss it entirely – she ordered a throat culture and the titer blood test to look for strep.  I don’t know if she would have pursued PANDAS or not.  Unfortunately, her week doing rounds in the pediatric unit was over and we were assigned a new doctor.  This doctor was most definitely not open to the possibility of PANDAS.  When my husband mentioned it to him his response was “The research on PANDAS is 10 years old and outdated”. End of story. When I spoke to the psychiatrist (who, it’s important to note, does not deal with very young kids) he told me he didn’t think it was PANDAS.  When I asked him why he simply said “Because PANDAS is rare”.  End of story.  My jaw may have dropped to the floor at this point.  You see, every single doctor and nurse who was caring for our daughter admitted to never seeing a child so young presenting with such severe symptoms – so you might say she was a rare case – yet they refused to consider the possibility that she may have a condition that is rare (although it is arguably not a rare condition at all).

This is one of the biggest problems facing children with PANDAS. Most doctors have never even heard of the condition and the ones that have often dismiss it like it’s a fairy tale.  Once in a while you might find a doctor that is willing to think about it but the minute you rule out evidence of a current strep infection that consideration goes out the door. Getting your child diagnosed and treated for PANDAS can be extremely difficult or even impossible if you don’t have the resources to seek out your own help.

And seek out our own help is exactly what we had to do.  A week after showing up at the ER we were discharged from the hospital. We had no diagnosis.  We had no follow up plan.  What we did have was the offer of a prescription to put our four year old on psychotropic medication.  Prozac to be specific. We declined that offer.  They did their best to push it on us but we made it very clear that we would not even consider it until we consulted with a psychiatrist that had experience treating preschool age children.  We have one such doctor in our health district.  It is  a year long waiting list to see her.  So we went home, with nothing.  And promptly set up a phone consultation with a doctor in another province that I had read about while researching all I could about PANDAS. And finally we started to get somewhere.

This new doctor has experience with PANDAS.  She has treated children with the condition and understands how life altering and devastating it can be for the kids and their families.  We talked for an hour – about Molly’s symptoms, about all of the tests we had just done coming back negative and about what to do next.  We started treating Molly immediately.  And she started to improve immediately.  It’s been almost a month since we walked into the hospital and the change in our daughter is incredible.  Her compulsions are extremely minor now (almost gone entirely), her tic has faded considerably (tics may be the hardest symptom to to treat), she no longer has fits of rage or lashes out at me.  She is back at daycare.  She has started dance lessons.  She is healthy and happy.

Treatment for PANDAS varies depending on several factors.  It can range from prophylactic use of antibiotics and medication and supplements to support the immune system and reduce inflammation (this combination has proven to be very effective for Molly) to more invasive procedures like IVG  or plasmapheresis. Many kids also benefit (usually in tandem to medical treatment) to CBT (cognitive behaviour therapy) or ERP (exposure and response prevention).  Some children recover quickly from PANDAS, some can take weeks, months even years to recover. Unforunately, this can be (and often is) a reoccurring condition and subsequent exposure to strep, or often other infections, can put these kids right back where they started.

So, our daughter is doing amazing right now. She is back to her old self.  And we know that this might not be over for her, for us.  But at least we now know what we are dealing with and have found a doctor that is willing and able to help us.  Our goal now, in addition to keeping our own child healthy, is to advocate for all the other kids who are not getting that help. All those kids who are being sent home with prescriptions for Prozac and never truly getting better.  These medications have their place and can be of great benefit to a lot of people.  But when you reach for them as the first line of defence, without understanding what you are actually treating, they can be quite dangerous.

I mentioned earlier that our daughter has had issues with anxiety in the past and that it tied into her condition.  After we found out more about PANDAS we did a lot of looking back at earlier, smaller “anxiety attacks” that she experienced prior to this major episode.  Upon reflection we realized that we could tie just about every single one of those attacks to an illness.  So, it’s likely that Molly experienced PANDAS symptoms previously and we didn’t realize it.  It is the nature of PANDAS that each episode is more severe than the last so all of these pieces have really come together for us.


This is what recovery looks like

I urge anyone who suspects they or their child might have strep to go get a simple swab and get treated if it’s positive.  PANDAS is, by definition, a paediatric condition so adults are not susceptible to it and chances are your child will not get it BUT when your kids show up at daycare or school with an active strep infection they put my daughter, and thousands of kids like her, at risk of having a serious relapse. Its easy to treat, and strep carries enough risk of other complications that you should be treating it anyways.

If you have a young child who has very suddenly developed more than one of the following symptoms, especially if that child recently had a strep or other bacterial or viral infection, then you may want to look into the possibility of PANDAS:

  • OCD
  • Severe anxiety/separation anxiety
  • Personality changes
  • Tics or abnormal movements
  • Aggressive behaviour
  • Deterioration of fine motor skills and/or learning abilities
  • Restrictive eating and/or anorexia
  • Developmental and age regression

Most doctors consider this condition rare.  That is very debatable.  It is estimated that there are 162,000 cases in the US alone.  Because it is largely misunderstood and under diagnosed (or misdiagnosed) in the medical community it is impossible to say how many kids around the world actually have PANDAS or PANS. Clearly more research (which requires more funding) needs to be done so more doctors take it seriously and so more kids get the help they need.  This condition is treatable and the earlier it is diagnosed and treated the easier it is to recover from.

If you would like to learn more about PANDAS/PANS I encourage you to visit the PANDAS Network.  It is a great resource for anyone needing information on the condition and it has a great list of resources to try and get you the help you may need.


This article has 23 comments

  1. I'm so glad she's on the mend Shayna, however I'm appalled that you had to go out of province to get the help you needed.  I hope that your story will encourage your province and the doctors in it to be more versed in PANDAS.
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    • Thank you Jessica.  It's pretty frustrating. "Free" healthcare is great, until it's not.  We are now paying our own way to get the help we need.  Not every one is able to do that…

      • Hard to find a main stream medical doctor that understands how to treat the autoimmune side of an illness. They are only trained to treat the symptoms…in other words..prescriptions. I to had to get my health care from a ND. Our so called 'free healthcare' isn't really free..we pay for it our with continued health issues. 

  2. Wow! I've never heard of this but it sounds terrifying. I'm sorry to hear that you aren't able to get the support in your own city or province. I hope Molly continues to get better without another relapse. I'm glad that you were able to find a doctor that can help her but I wish it was closer to home for you.

    • Thank you Cheryl.  I know that you have had your own brick walls with the system and stood your ground too.  Taking no for answer when it comes to our kid's healthy is just not an option.

  3. Wow, I am so sorry you all have had to go through this. I am so glad to hear little Molly is on the mend. I cannot believe you had to go out of province to get the help you needed. But sadly, that is sometimes what we have to do with the state of our health care system.

    Sending big hugs to you all.
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    • Thank you Brandy.  Ironically I have heard tell of a doctor somewhere in small town Manitoba who actually is knowledgeable about PANDAS.  I've been trying to track him down.  Manitoba is a lot closer than BC to go for help….

  4. WOW! Had no idea you were dealing with this – how absolutely scary. And as someone in the same health care system in this province, I totally get the frustration. YOU are an amazing advocate for your daughter.

    • Thank you very much Tenille.  The system is great most of the time but it certainly has some pretty big holes in it.  I hope we finally get that Children's Hospital built in the province one of these days!

  5. I'm so glad I happened on your twitter post about this! My son had this happen to him almost 4 years ago now and it was terrifying! Ultimately the neurologist said he had Sydenham chorea (also almost nonexistent) but she also mentioned PANDAS but didn't think he had it. Most doctors think PANDAS isn't real. He was put on a dose of antibiotics until he is over 18 and I have him on vitamin E and fish oil supplements. I am curious as to what supplements have worked for your daughter? I am open to whatever supplements may help. My son is 12 now but still has OCD and ADHD type symptoms among other things, but not nearly as bad as when he 1st presented symptoms. I refuse to put him on meds. It's frustrating because most doctors have never heard of it or don't think it's real and it's hard to explain it to others. We actually found out that his great grandmother had the same thing when she was a child. Sorry my comment is so long. Just nice to know we are not the only one's dealing with this:)
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    • Hi Rachelle,
      I'm really sorry to hear you have gone through something similiar.  There seems to be a lot of confusion between PANDAS and Sydenham Chorea.  Of course they are both caused by strep so that's not surprising. And they do have overlapping symptoms.

      Molly is also on long term antibiotics (how long we don't know yet, her diagnosis is new).  She also is on a pretty high dose of Omega3s – she takes 2000 mg a day and a high dose of probiotics – 50 billion cultures a day.  The combination has done wonders for her! We also use several essential oils.  I can't tell you for sure if they help but since she is doing so well we just keep up with everything we've been doing!

      Thank you so much for stopping by and commenting! You say your son still has symptoms, have they improved at all over the years?

      • They have improved but I tend to see them creep up when he gets tired or stressed. I don't think they are noticeable to others but are to my immediate family since we know what he has been through. I will have to add probiotics to his regimen:)

        • We see that with Molly too.  Her symptoms are just about completely gone (at least for now) but when she gets tired or stressed we see her tic and she has some minor compulsions too.

          The other thing we do, and again I don't know if it helps but I read it does, is add Epsom salts to her bath.  It's suppose to help clear the body of the toxins that are created when the antibiotics kill the bacteria…

  6. Wow 🙁 I'm so sorry to read about what you and your family have gone through in your search for an answer to Molly's health problems! Thank goodness you persisted and finally found someone who would help you get to the bottom of this.  What a well-written account of your ordeal and information that could help other parents in a similar situation.  I will be sure to share this post. So glad to see Molly is on the road to being healthy again! 

  7. Wow, I had no idea that this existed. Thanks so much for sharing your story – I myself get strep pretty much every year, so my kids are exposed to it often – I knew what other things Strep could lead to, but now I'll be vigilant about any of these symptoms, too, if my kids contract it. So glad that your daughter is on the mend, Shayna – what a precious little lady she is!!

  8. Very proud of what you are doing with this situation Shayna! I've shared this on my personal page and will do so on my other as well. I've been through misdiagnosis especially as a child on multiple occasions as well as running into it with our doctor. It is the worst feeling in the world…

  9. Wow! What a scary experience you had with your beautiful little girl! So hard when your child is ill and you don't know what is wrong. I always tell parents to follow their gut – parents know best when something is not right with their child. I'm so glad that you were able to figure it all out and that she is on the road to recovery now. Thank you for sharing this with us!

  10. I absolutely love this blog. I have an amazing 8 year old daughter who sounds exactly like yours from an early age. Overnight the light in her eyes was dimmed by fear and obsession. I only hope more doctors are open to this “rare” illness- (sarcasm) and help other children before their episodes of Pandas/pans gets increasingly worse. Thank you! 

  11. What an excellent post Shayna, thanks for the education. This is something I have never heard of, and honestly I thought I was up on a lot of childhood illnesses, because of the different things that have happened to my children. Thanks again.
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  12. Hi! We are in the midst of dealing with this with our 4 year old. i am interested  in hearing more about your experience with the connection of the dr in a different province and the logistics of treating and prescribing cross provinces? I am leaning towards a well established dr in BC. (We are in Alberta). Could you email me if you have a minute?

    Feeling overwhelmed with finding a starting point. -Lisa 

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